Comments on: Silverlight 1.1: No Love for PPC Macs

By: Push.ca Is UP!!! : underexposed Agency

Push.ca Is UP!!! : underexposed Agency — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:42:26 +0000

[...] http://push.ca/ is finially up and I just had a quick sneak peak at the videos and they looked awesome. Full screen, great quality with no hickups. The reason I only was able to have a quick peak is because I am still rocking a power PC mac and unfortunately with Silverlight 2, which PUSH is using it is not compatabile with Power PC macs. [...]

By: Will iPhone Ever Run Flash?

Will iPhone Ever Run Flash? — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:04:34 +0000

[...] We haven’t mentioned Microsoft’s entry into the web media space with its recently launched Silverlight platform, but until we stumble upon a site that actually uses it, it’s irrelevant. Tags: ActionScript, [...]

By: RazorSharp iPods & Raw Gadgets » Blog Archive » Silverlight brings Windows Media Streaming from MS

Mon, 28 May 2007 12:15:15 +0000

[...] Windows Media videos, so this has to be taken as good news. Unfortunately, however, Microsoft is apparently not going to support PPC Macs in future releases of Silverlight (via [...]

By: Microsoft Silverlight e Mac Os, vantaggi e svantaggi

Microsoft Silverlight e Mac Os, vantaggi e svantaggi — Sun, 27 May 2007 09:56:29 +0000

[...] ecco la notizia brutta, non piangete: Silverlight è e sarà supportato solo dai Mac con processore PPC. Non si tratta di una tecnologia sufficientemente diffusa da considerarsi un colpo basso, ma questi [...]

By: Blowing off Mac users « Living in a digital world

Blowing off Mac users « Living in a digital world — Sat, 26 May 2007 06:55:21 +0000

[...] Sheba Nation tell how Microsoft have shown their contempt for PowerPC Mac users by confirming that their Flash challenger, Silverfish, won’t provide support for that platform. Intel Macs are fine, but the reality is over half the installed Mac user base won’t be able to use Silverfish. [...]

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ashebanow gets — Sat, 26 May 2007 00:13:14 +0000

By the way, a big tip of the hat to Jon Gruber of Daring Fireball for the link to this post. It got an amazing amount of traffic, 2 and 1/2 weeks after I originally wrote it. Just goes to show the difference between the traffic between an A-List blogger like Jon and a C-List blogger like me...

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Top Posts « WordPress.com — Fri, 25 May 2007 23:58:19 +0000

[...] Silverlight 1.1: No Love for PPC Macs John Lam of Microsoft has written a nice blog post called “Clearing the air about Silverlight and the DLR”. […] [...]

By: ashebanow

ashebanow — Fri, 25 May 2007 21:00:29 +0000

For those of you arguing the “it makes business sense” side of the argument, I have a simple question for you: if it was Adobe announcing that we stopped supporting Flash Player on PPC Macs right now, would you feel the same way? If not, why not? Is it just because they have no installed base?

From my side, I know the screaming from those millions of users would be quite loud. Heck, we regularly get complaints from people because we don’t support PPC Linux, never mind PPC Mac OS X…

(Disclaimer: Adobe could very well stop supporting PPC Macs someday. I have no idea if or when such a thing might happen, but I suspect it won’t be for quite some time.)

By: stwf

stwf — Fri, 25 May 2007 20:12:35 +0000

Don’t forget TESTING (and support) !

The coding is usually about half the picture in this stuff. By not having to test on PPC Macs the amount of work goes down considerably, in both the testing and coding phase. Fewer machines to support also means less bug fixing. Going Intel Mac only means FAR fewer supported platforms.

There is also the case that some very low level (machine code) stuff may be cross platform on the Intel Macs, but would require a considerable undertaking to port.

Also how long do you think Apple will continue to support the PPC Macs???

I hate Microsoft as much as the next guy, but in this case I think they want their platform adopted, so I think deep down they would have liked to support PPC macs. But for my reasons and those mentioned above it probably didn’t make much business sense.

By: Fred Hanrenhansenhan

Fred Hanrenhansenhan — Fri, 25 May 2007 17:50:06 +0000

> you forget the GNU/Linux users… Wich is larger then the the Mac users…

It is ridiculous to say there are more Linux users than Mac users, however it is also ridiculous to say you’re on the Web if you can’t run in Firefox on any Unix. Somebody at Microsoft knows C, right?

Also, Silverlight will not run on iPhone or PlayStation or PSP or Wii or Nokia. The Web is quite clearly moving off the PC an into everything. The PSP has better CSS support than Explorer by the way.

MPEG-4 is where this stuff is happening. It plays everywhere and it is not built from scratch with thousands of new bugs, it is the standardization of the decade-old QuickTime container, it already works with ALL of the content-creation tools that already worked with QuickTime. With a container format, the movie has multiple independent layers which can be audio tracks, video tracks, subtitle tracks stored as localizable plain text, Flash movies, Java, MIDI, whatever is appropriate to your content.

After a couple of unsuccessful attempts to unseat QuickTime, now Microsoft goes after Flash? It is like revenge of the 90′s.

> the recent CS3 video apps that came back to the Mac
> doesn’t support PPC Macs.

If you have a PowerPC Mac and you’re into video, you are already happy with either iMovie, Final Cut Express, Final Cut Pro, Avid, or others. These apps are built for Intel Macs because it will be a few years before anyone is even interested in them. The few people who are demanding this app are Premiere for Windows users who want to switch over to Macs.

> Adobe’s new audio app, Soundbooth, also ignores PPC macs.

There is no market on the Mac for this app right now. Soundbooth is where InDesign was many years ago … they are going to give it away as part of the suite to try to get you to stop buying something else. There is no PowerPC audio software that Soundbooth can compete with, so it is not trying. In a couple of years it may be competitive on the Mac.

Silverlight is different because we’re talking about the decoder ring part of an infotainment platform.